Blong master, that sounds like a great idea! My husband likes cider, and I wanted to make him some (as I said above, my gateway drug was kombucha, and now I am escalating), but he keeps saying the season is almost over and he would prefer wine. But I am curious about graf. I may do a smaller recipe to start with, though eventually I will need a big carboy and now is as good as anytime. I will need to download Beer Brewing for Dummies so I know what to do.