Grinder12000
Well-Known Member
What does one gain from an extended biol time ???
also reduces dimethyl sulfide (DMS), the smell you get from canned corn- good to reduce this in light pilseners
I have this feeling we've discussed this before.
OH YA...>WE DID.....IN YOUR THREAD WITH THE SAME ****ING NAME!
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/search.php?searchid=2587197
and one day before that...someone else asked it....here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/90min-vs-60min-boil-87058/
Maybe a mod could combine all of these or something...just so you don't get confused and start yet another.
we don't want to dissuade people from asking questions.
So that you can boil off more wort?
I usually boil until I'm at 6 gallons, the add my 60 minute hops and start timing. You can get a few more IBUs out of boiling them for as long as 75 minutes, but not much.
The only time I plan on a 90 minute boil are when one of two things is true:
1. Using pilsner malt. If I'm using pilsner malt, everything I've read says to do a 90 minute boil to boil off more DMS. I don't know if this is always needed, but it's what I do.
2. In a bigger beer, my efficiency decreases quite a bit (and it's not great as it is) so I'll do a longer boil and try to increase my sparge runnings. This works well, because I'm using more grain and should actually use more sparge water as a result. So, I'll sparge more and boil longer to get closer to my intended OG.
In last night's brew session, I missed my beginning water add.(stupid noob mistake added too much water). The brew was a partial mash, DME, and LME. The boil time was supposed to be 60 min, but I had already added my DME, wort from the mini-mash, brought to a boil and added the first hops before I realized there was NO WAY that that much liquid would boil down to 5.5 gallon. Instead of adding the remaining hops on their schedule, I delayed the rest of the hop adds by 15 min. The first hops were boiled an additional 15 min, but the rest were added on schedule (20 and zero). Bottom line - the wort was boiled an additional 15 min with the first hops. Hit the anticipated O.G. on the nose. How will this affect the beer? Beginning hops were Williamette Pellets. Thanks in advance.
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That actually sounds fine. You may get just a little more IBUs (bitterness) from a 75 minute hop addition rather than 60 minutes, but it's a very small difference. If you have the correct amount of volume, and the anticipated OG, I don't think you'll even be able to discern any difference at all.
...add my 60 minute hops and start timing...
Thanks Yooper. Anything you would have changed in procedure besides adding less water in the beginning?
So the clock starts ticking when the bittering hops hit the wort?
I've been meaning to ask something similar... When doing an extract batch, I wasn't sure when to start the clock... An example is, I brewed an extract this past weekend. In that batch (and previous ones) I steeped some grains and brought it to a boil (and here's my confusion), then brought the pot off the heat to add and stir in DME (to avoid scorching) then put back on heat and brought back to a boil and add hops... My confusion lies in which boil do I start the clock?
I think Yooper's statement may have answered my question...
...Usually, you don't bring your grains up to a boil. I think you'll like the results better if you steep the grains at 150-160 degrees for 20 minutes, then remove the grains and turn the heat up. Add the DME (off the heat) and then bring it up to a boil. Then add your hops and start timing.
Here is the recipe I used:
Speckled Cow Cream Ale
(4 gallon recipe, All grain, single infusion batch sparging)
5 lb Pilsner Malt (instead of standard 2-row)
0.5 lb Flaked barley
0.5 lb carapils
0.5 lb crystal 40L
0.5 lb flaked corn
0.5 oz Cluster (60 min)
0.5 oz Cluster (30 min)
US-05 yeast or Wyeast American Ale 1056
The boil was no problem but the chilling process was left up to mother nature and convection cooling in the 12 F air. Can't run my immersion chiller via my garden hose this time of year. I set my brew kettle on several blocks of ice to aid in the chilling process but it still took about 40+ minutes to get it under 75 F.
Guess I will see how it turns out in 6 weeks. Thanks for getting back to me on this orevious thread.
The boil was no problem but the chilling process was left up to mother nature and convection cooling in the 12 F air. Can't run my immersion chiller via my garden hose this time of year. I set my brew kettle on several blocks of ice to aid in the chilling process but it still took about 40+ minutes to get it under 75 F.
Guess I will see how it turns out in 6 weeks. Thanks for getting back to me on this orevious thread.
Well - I searched and found nothing. I even searched 60 vs. 90 minute boil and found nothing - get off your high horse again BIG.
Seriously - get over it and deal with it.
I SWEAR Yoop - he just waits for me to mess up - I'm glad he is the cop here!! Good God!
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